diff --git a/cmk/gui/wato/pages/_simple_modes.py b/cmk/gui/wato/pages/_simple_modes.py
index 9cdd84d12fd..d38926dd955 100644
--- a/cmk/gui/wato/pages/_simple_modes.py
+++ b/cmk/gui/wato/pages/_simple_modes.py
@@ -393,7 +393,6 @@ def _from_vars(self, ident_var: str = "ident") -> None:
                 )
 
             self._new = True
-            self._clone = self._default_id()
             self._ident = None
             self._entry = self._clone_entry(entry)
             return
@@ -802,13 +801,10 @@ def _get_render_settings(self) -> tuple[Any, DataOrigin, DoValidate]:
                 True,
             )
 
-        if self._new and not self._clone:
+        if self._new:
             # New form, no validation
             return DEFAULT_VALUE, DataOrigin.DISK, False
 
-        if self._clone:
-            self._ident = self._clone
-
         # Existing entry from disk
         catalog_converter = self._get_catalog_converter()