NTR: Energy

[DanBerrios]

Monitor energy as modeled as a material entity by ENVO.... Consider NTR in RBO if not addressed in ENVO

[cmungall]

Relevant: EnvironmentOntology/envo#1490

[PaulNSchofield]

I read through the ENVO discussion and drafted this: "Just re @pbuttigieg above, photons have energy which has no bearer. I think a lot of what has been discussed so far is very much a Newtonian "common sense" concept of energy rather than a modern physics one. Relativistic mass and relativistic energy are effectively the same, so as there is no bearer, then energy must be a continuant, although of course it can be transformed or distributed. It exists in the real world with a given probability in the absence of any bearer of it as a property. For an an increase in energy, whether it be excitation or through possession of kinetic energy. (For example "If the object moves quickly), the relativistic mass is greater than the rest mass by an amount equal to the mass associated with the kinetic energy of the object. " There a half decent wikipedia page on this even. So our argument is that Energy is a continuant and the energy that makes up radiation; eg photons, particles, is a continuant because it has no bearer. It will persist until there is an energy transfer process when it will transform or cease to exist as a discrete entity." then decided not to post until Id understood the probkem of why photons are not supposed to have mass. What I can read is a little contradictory. I guess that we need to place Energy correctly as radiation is to be a child of energy? Thats doesnt come over that clearly in the ENVO discussion.

[pbuttigieg]

Monitor energy as modeled as a material entity by ENVO.... Consider NTR in RBO if not addressed in ENVO

If by addressed you mean represented as a continuant, this won't happen for reasons alluded to or outlined in the ENVO issue linked above, so no need to delay the NTR if you're set on this construct.

Also, be wary of having "radiation" as a subclass of energy. It isn't a type of energy, more a way energy (EM, kinetic, etc) can propagate through a medium or (if used as a noun) a spatial arrangement of the entity that bears the energy.