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make doorjack 4 tc #2305

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@deltanedas deltanedas commented Nov 28, 2024

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4tc and 2 on discount

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jaws of life and susbox:

  • arent controlled items
  • have no charges
  • make much less suspicious sounds
  • are 2 tc

currently if you hear a door getting emagged you first think ninja because of how rare doorjack is from being outclassed, now it has a good chance of being seen again

at 4 tc doorjack is vaguely competitive, do you want the sustainability of prying doors open or the quick burst of 3 doors in succession

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  • tweak: The doorjack now costs 4 TC instead of 6.

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How would you feel about 4TC with 2TC at discount?

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still very little reason to do it when you can get:

  • a radio
  • 2 red soaps
  • a susbox to complement jaws and vice versa
  • pistol mags

its rare that you need a quick burst of 3 doors, still dont think people would use it when you can get both generally superior options for the same price

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JustTNE commented Nov 28, 2024

I feel like the doorjack should be a little more expensive. It has the ability to keep doors permanently opened until manually fixed, which is an advantage the jaws don't have.

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with AI that wont matter since it can instantly unbolt them

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JustTNE commented Nov 28, 2024

That won't fix the access on the door being broken, or has that behavior changed?

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JustTNE commented Nov 28, 2024

Also, I do believe the doorjack is a smaller item than the jaws, which makes it easier to store in a storage implant. That is probably another reason it should be a little more expensive than 2 tc.

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no but ai can then bolt it closed or shock you because you didnt buy the insuls

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Also need to consider skill and speed. Susbox can effectively do the same, but a lot of players are bad at hacking, etc. Both susbox and jaws take significant time as well. AO is much quicker and easier to use. Price reduction isn't a bad idea but I think the 4tc suggestion is more reasonable.

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Kr8art commented Nov 28, 2024

I think two TC is honestly fine. The doorjack has the advantage of speed, but is limited in charges, whereas the jaws take longer at unlimited charges.

Personally I do not consider the doors staying open to be always advantageous. If the doorjack is for example used to quickly burst into the bridge to get a steal objective, it's very likely that the alert level gets raised once people discover the jacked doors.

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Lyndomen commented Jan 6, 2025

then good to go

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@deltanedas deltanedas changed the title make doorjack 2 tc make doorjack 4 tc Jan 6, 2025
@deltanedas deltanedas merged commit 2540b0a into DeltaV-Station:master Jan 6, 2025
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