Adds an overflow borg job slot to Frontier Outpost

[whatston3]

About the PR

What it says on the tin. Borg role time requirements adjusted to 12h to be inline with pilot. Currently impossible to join as a borg outside of through ghost roles.

As far as I can recall, the last time this was brought up, the rationale behind borg removal was that borgs weren't fun and added little. With #2766 and upstream's chassis selection, borg gameplay is likely in a reasonable state for Frontier Station.

Worth considering: should this be extended to any other spawn stations? Shuttles?

Why / Balance

Borgs good.

How to test

Start as a borg. Choose a chassis. Wow!

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• add: Latejoin borg slots have been added to Frontier Outpost.

[dustylens]

I'd be happy to add a Borg spawn to the dispatch. I think at the very least it would be a good experiment.

[Temoffy]

Does the dispatch have a charger?

I already have in my old notes to make borg slots on the Metastable II, looking forward to this

[dustylens]

It does not. If it's seemed reasonable I feel it would be appropriate and fine to add some.

[whatston3]

Let's start with "is this reasonable?" before "should anywhere else have this?" before "let's map what those places need". Not trying to present this as a settled issue.

[Houtblokje]

Let's start with "is this reasonable?" before "should anywhere else have this?" before "let's map what those places need". Not trying to present this as a settled issue.

I think its fine, but it does still lock you out of a pretty big part of what makes Frontier, Frontier, which is the fact that you do not have a bank account as a borg, and are also unable to fly ships.

[Myzumi]

and are also unable to fly ships.

Borgs has been able to fly ships for some time now, This is even possible on live servers.

[github-actions]

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[CautionDev]

Personally not a fan. This bypasses the normal process of having to research and build borgs. The only way you can get a free borg right now AFAIK is to find them with corrupted laws on wrecks.

If this was to go through I think it should be limited to a very small number of slots at most. Maybe 1-2 to act as station-employees, as to not destroy the purpose of building borgs for science ships. Not sure if there's a way to prevent the SR from being able to add more borg slots code-wise.

[blackknight954]

Personally not a fan. This bypasses the normal process of having to research and build borgs. The only way you can get a free borg right now AFAIK is to find them with corrupted laws on wrecks.

If this was to go through I think it should be limited to a very small number of slots at most. Maybe 1-2 to act as station-employees, as to not destroy the purpose of building borgs for science ships. Not sure if there's a way to prevent the SR from being able to add more borg slots code-wise.

In my 700 hours of frontier I can count the number of times someone has taken a borg spot on one hand, coz it’s a ghost role probably

[CautionDev]

In my 700 hours of frontier I can count the number of times someone has taken a borg spot on one hand, coz it’s a ghost role probably

Really? I see them taken relatively often. I take them myself sometimes too, and sometimes other people have beat me to it :P

It could be that you're just not building them/around people that are building them, or if you're trying during lowpop

[whatston3]

Personally not a fan. This bypasses the normal process of having to research and build borgs. The only way you can get a free borg right now AFAIK is to find them with corrupted laws on wrecks.

If this was to go through I think it should be limited to a very small number of slots at most. Maybe 1-2 to act as station-employees, as to not destroy the purpose of building borgs for science ships. Not sure if there's a way to prevent the SR from being able to add more borg slots code-wise.

The counterpoint is this - if I want to play cyborg, if I find it fun, why should I have to wait for someone to actually build a chassis? If I'm really not a fan of the person who built the cyborg, do I want to be tied with that player? The fact the cad has a freebie borg should imply that waiting for people to build borgs isn't reliable. We had borg slots on ships before, and they were fine. This [solution] is reasonable, and allows for more player agency.

With the fact that chassis are essentially equivalent now, the [three] things you can still use to upgrade borgs as a scientist are modules (again, still need to review what's in what module), better components for those modules where they're swappable, and power cells. Selling a possible ghost role on the hunch that, "trust me bro, it'll be great" only for whoever takes it to pick a chassis you're not interested in at all isn't fantastic either.

Maybe 1-2 to act as station-employees, as to not destroy the purpose of building borgs for science ships.

Maybe, sure, but that's a different role with different supervisors, and possibly even a dedicated lawset.

[dustylens]

I do not believe I have ever seen a single borg on Frontier. Between availability, jank and the people challenges actually putting a borg together and getting a person in there struggled against a number of filters.

I am glad to see that the mechanical and logistical challenges are being addressed and that we might get a chance to see some meaningful player access to provide feedback on how these systems feel and act in practice.